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Post by Suzie on Aug 28, 2018 18:15:23 GMT
I'm thinking about filling the appartment building with a few "default" appartment, aka not customized at all.
The main idea behind this is having some player to handle it in RP and rent it to regular players for long term (i won't do appartments for every players who ask for them because the map size isn't extendable indefinitely and i always had some place that are almost not used anymore).
I don't mind if someone take care of it with an "NPC" character but even if it would be better with some PC, this PC would need to have a character sheet or some RP reason that fit.
What do you think of it ? Would you be interested ?
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Betty
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Post by Betty on Aug 28, 2018 19:25:58 GMT
An option for more permanent homes would definitely be nice for the regular players and help with the issue of people using certain hotel rooms like apartments, though personally I've been playing the 'take the subway home' angle, and engaging in a lot of... 'sleepovers' :x
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Post by Annikaa on Aug 28, 2018 19:31:48 GMT
I think it is a good idea and should be filled out for use for regular players. They should be reserved though, and some rules or rent should apply. As we continue to grow in player base, it can very quickly become overwhelmed.
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Post by Suzie on Aug 28, 2018 19:42:38 GMT
I agree with you Anni, my idea is that theses appartments would have to be rented with money (and the money system, not some RP "theorical" money) so people who use them will have to work for them.
Also, even if it's not really noticeable yet, the whole map size is something important. Right now there is three appartment, most of them weren't used for a long time. So making them somehow related to activity look like a good idea i think.
Another important thing for me is the hotel. I don't want all players to fight to have an appartment and then the hotel would end up being empty most of the time. There is a good balance to find here i think, so the rent of the appartment should be connected to hotel room price. If it's 100$ a night, the rent should be at least 1000$ monthly (in RL time). It's not so much if you consider that having only one point in society or art would pay more than the rent (1500$ per month with society).
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Sybil
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Post by Sybil on Aug 28, 2018 21:27:13 GMT
I'd suggest making apartments something only available to regular players. Perhaps the players that have a sheet, an account here, and have been around for a couple weeks or something.
I'm still seeing how this money thing works out in the long run so I could be way off base, but I'd be careful about charging prices that are too high until you've seen how the system works in practice.
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Betty
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Post by Betty on Aug 28, 2018 21:38:30 GMT
I think requiring $1000/mo from the character sheet would be a good way to offer a money sink for something valuable and basically requires that you be an active player to keep up with it. And like Suzie said, it only takes 1 skill point to be able to afford that if you're active.
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Pain
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Post by Pain on Aug 29, 2018 0:35:48 GMT
1000$ a month is a good number but not all apartments are created equal lol. But yeah like Sybil said, make it available to players who are clearly active enough, and have been around long enough to warrant a property to purchase. Since the apparent building almost never comes up in conversation I always usta just stay at the hotel cause I don't know how I would integrate introducing buying/selling a home. Maybe offer giving players who you think have earned a home spot a mini event to buy a room in the apartment building?
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Post by Suzie on Aug 29, 2018 7:22:16 GMT
Well, i won't do event for that. I already have troubles to do maps, deal with the events, deal with OOC stuff (and there is so much of this >_>) and play myself.
That's why i'm looking for a player to handle it, in an RP way.
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Pain
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Post by Pain on Aug 29, 2018 8:47:27 GMT
If you want a player to handle it, the only rp sense it would make would be the player would have to own the building, and then they would also make bank off the rent others would pay, and personally I don't know if any of us could deal with that kind of power right at the moment.
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Post by kimmyfox on Aug 29, 2018 9:37:18 GMT
Guess depends on how they apartments are going to be, if it's really nice high standard apartments then you likely need someone to take care them in RP fashion. If they're owned by slum lord or rental shark then he probably only care more or less that he gets rent money.
But think for most part Doc sheet of which rooms being rented probably be enough for most parts, I can't imagine many tenants really you know hanging around apartments to do RP with land lord or janitor there if there is one.
That said I don't think be bad idea for those who spend most their time at around the RP sim to have longterm accomodations, so rooms at hotel doesn't end having tenant using the hotel rooms as apartments.
That said I think it probably require some objects unless you plan to use the existing apartment complex for apartments over there, but would suggest some optimizing in general. I mean cloth store look really nice and big, but how many go there to really support the size needing to be so big. You could say same for restuarant that has think almost 20 or so tables while maybe max about 3-8people there at a given time. I get it looks impressive and all think it looks amazing, but there any reason it couldn't be slightly smaller and both leave more object for other RP things or help sim run better?
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Sybil
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Post by Sybil on Aug 30, 2018 14:47:29 GMT
If you want a player to handle it, the only rp sense it would make would be the player would have to own the building, and then they would also make bank off the rent others would pay, and personally I don't know if any of us could deal with that kind of power right at the moment. I kinda just mentioned this in the other thread but, I think we are already setting aside a fair bit of RP realism here. Personally, I am strongly against someone actually earning the money from the apartment complex --especially if no one else is going to be earning money from the "work" they do. Because as you rightly point out that person's income would quickly become 15? (however many apartments we have) more times more than anyone else on the server and all they would need to do for that is check once a month to make sure those people paid. |
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Post by Suzie on Sept 3, 2018 7:17:39 GMT
The appartments are on the map. I keep them pretty simple so it doesn't add to much pressure on the already heavy map (each appartement is 13ko, i have objects heavier than that  ). I'm still not sure about how it will work. If it turn to be too complicated, it might as well ending being offered by OOC request and keeping trace in a google doc. If someone want to handle the place, without that money thing at first maybe, to keep it strictly RP, just send me a pm or ask here. |
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